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ASC 718 vs IRC 409a – What Are The Differences?

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Jane Levin
(Corporate Controller at Private) | Jun 26, 2013

ASC 718What is the difference between IRC 409a and FASB ASC 718? And for a U.S. c-corp do I need to worry about ASC 718?

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Jim Timmins
(Managing Director at Teknos Associates) | May 9, 2011

IRC 409A is a tax regulation, published and enforced by the IRS. ASC 718 (formerly FAS 123R) is an accounting standard published by the FASB and overseen by the public accounting firms (and the SEC, in the case of publicly traded companies).

IRC 409A establishes a requirement for the issuance of stock options to employees and others -- a requirement that must be met or the option recipients will be subject to severe tax penalties. This basic requirement is that stock options must be priced at or above the fair market value of the underlying security (that is, the security into which the options are exercisable, usually common stock). IRC 409A then defines methods by which a private company can show that it appropriately determined fair market value (basically, either a "do it yourself" approach for young companies or an independent appraisal for most other companies).

ASC 718 lays out the methodology by which the compensation expense for stock options is calculated under GAAP for inclusion in financial statements. ASC 718 utilizes a slightly different standard from IRC 409A (the fair value of the underlying common stock rather than the fair market value), but that difference are immaterial for most purposes.

Because there has been little enforcement activity by the IRS around IRC 409A, but most companies have had their ASC 718 work scrutinized by an audit firm, the focus of attention in stock option pricing has shifted from tax compliance to GAAP compliance.

The AICPA has published a practice aid (Valuation of Privately-Held-Company Equity Securities Issued as Compensation) that is used by audit firms in their review of valuation reports used to price stock options. Most high quality valuation reports follow this guidance to ensure GAAP compliance -- and tax compliance follows almost automatically in most cases.

ASC 718 vs IRC 409a – What Are The Differences?

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Jane Levin
(Corporate Controller at Private) | Jun 26, 2013

ASC 718What is the difference between IRC 409a and FASB ASC 718? And for a U.S. c-corp do I need to worry about ASC 718?

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Jim Timmins
(Managing Director at Teknos Associates) | May 9, 2011

IRC 409A is a tax regulation, published and enforced by the IRS. ASC 718 (formerly FAS 123R) is an accounting standard published by the FASB and overseen by the public accounting firms (and the SEC, in the case of publicly traded companies).

IRC 409A establishes a requirement for the issuance of stock options to employees and others -- a requirement that must be met or the option recipients will be subject to severe tax penalties. This basic requirement is that stock options must be priced at or above the fair market value of the underlying security (that is, the security into which the options are exercisable, usually common stock). IRC 409A then defines methods by which a private company can show that it appropriately determined fair market value (basically, either a "do it yourself" approach for young companies or an independent appraisal for most other companies).

ASC 718 lays out the methodology by which the compensation expense for stock options is calculated under GAAP for inclusion in financial statements. ASC 718 utilizes a slightly different standard from IRC 409A (the fair value of the underlying common stock rather than the fair market value), but that difference are immaterial for most purposes.

Because there has been little enforcement activity by the IRS around IRC 409A, but most companies have had their ASC 718 work scrutinized by an audit firm, the focus of attention in stock option pricing has shifted from tax compliance to GAAP compliance.

The AICPA has published a practice aid (Valuation of Privately-Held-Company Equity Securities Issued as Compensation) that is used by audit firms in their review of valuation reports used to price stock options. Most high quality valuation reports follow this guidance to ensure GAAP compliance -- and tax compliance follows almost automatically in most cases.



From: Jim Felter
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 5:53:58 PM
To: Steve Scott
Subject: Re: 2016 Financials
 

check this link


https://www.capshare.com/blog/just-how-bad-is-409a-noncompliance-for-a-startup-really/




From: Steve Scott <steve@verthermia.com>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 5:39:52 PM
To: Jim Felter
Subject: Re: 2016 Financials
 
Thank you for the examples.  Not as bad as I thought, but, pretty sure they don't want to see the issue more than 55% of the tax going to government. Plus, state taxes and SSI, etc. What a pain. For everyone. 

Another hard part also for me is letting go any further claims we would have against Ken and party for mismanagement and improper activities. I think those may be off the table with a settlement.

Still the likelihood of pursuing additional actions against them is remote. 

Steve



On Fri, May 12, 2017 12:21 PM, Jim Felter jim@verthermia.com wrote:

Well, let's setup phone calls to Jeff, Ken and Roger and make the deal with them on the outstanding balance. I have attached a slide from a presentation showing the negative effect of the 409a tax calculation based on $100,000, 


From: Steve Scott <steve@verthermia.com>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 1:34:41 PM
To: Jim Felter
Subject: 2016 Financials
 
Jim,

I need these financials.

Time to put in the PPM is now.

Steve

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